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Saturday, October 16, 2021

Martin Mars

Hawaii Mars

Martin JRM Mars flying boats were developed during WW2 as cargo planes for the Navy. The JR in JRM is just a Navy code for Utility-Transport Aircraft, so JRM just means JR - Mars. Only seven were made. The six production aircraft were all named after Pacific Ocean island chains. The Navy retired them in 1956. Coulson still has two of them at their base on Vancouver Island, 80 miles due west of the city of Vancouver.



The Martin Mars is a very large airplane. Just how big is it? Here's a comparison with a couple others from the same era:

Comparison of Martin Mars, Convair Peacemaker & Spruce Goose
(that little triangle in the lower left corner is part of the Hindenburg)


Saturday, July 19, 2025

Meteorite from Mars

Meteorite from Mars

From Sotheby's:

The largest piece of Mars on Earth is now the most valuable meteorite ever sold at auction after it achieved $5.3 million in the Natural History sale during Sotheby's Geek Week.

Somebody is convinced that it came from Mars. Rocks fall out of the sky everyday, most of them are too small to notice, and most of them don't come from Mars. Assuming somebody is right, then this is a really freak occurrence. It would have to have been a big meteor to hit Mars in order to knock this rock into space where it floated for a zillion years until it got captured in Earth's gravity and plummeted to the ground in Africa. Very freaky.

I would have thought it would have rounded edges, not angular ones, being as it probably entered the Earth's atmosphere traveling at several miles per second, but whatever.

Via RT


Thursday, March 19, 2015

Xombie Test Flight


Successful Test Flight for Mars Landing Technology

So we've got a robot space probe approaching Mars, and it wants to land at a particular spot. How do you find that spot? Use GPS you say, but that only works on Earth. You could use inertial navigation, but that is only accurate to a certain point. The farther you travel from your last known point, the farther off you could be. If your last known point is on Earth, by the time you got to Mars you could be a zillion miles off course. Besides, I am not sure inertial navigation would even work in deep space. Most of the way to Mars you are going to be in free-fall and subject to the gravitic whims of the solar system. Your inertial navigation system will think you are in free fall, not subject to any acceleration in any direction.
    Anyway, getting to Mars isn't the problem, we know how to do that. The problem is locating the spot on the planet where we want to land. These guys are using a camera to look at the ground and compare it to a picture they have on board. It will probably have to be a picture taken by a probe, nothing from Earth is going to have enough resolution. It's weird how much processing power it takes to recognize an image, considering that you and I do it instantly and continuously.
     The best part of the video is watching the rocket motor twitch this way and that to keep the spacecraft balanced. All big rockets do this but you hardly ever get to see it being done.


     Just for grins, codingame dot com had a programming puzzle that mimics this situation, though vastly simplified. It only operates in 2-D, the terrain mapping has already been done, and we have a fairly large area to land in. You can watch my solution play out here.

Wednesday, September 24, 2014

Mission to Mars

This chart is a couple of years old. I knew there had been a couple of ships sent to Mars, but I didn't realize just how many there were, or how many had failed.

Spacecraft from both India and NASA arrived in orbit around Mars this week. This is India's first attempt at getting to Mars. You can see from the chart above that Russia didn't succeed in this endeavor until their 12th mission. That was 40 years ago, so you have to give them credit for making do with obsolete technology and persistence. Especially persistence.
     Orbital speed is about 2.5 miles per second or about 10,000 MPH, which is roughly half what you need to orbit the Earth. Right now Mars is about 140 million miles away, which means radio signals will take 13 minutes to get there, which means you'll need to wait for almost half an hour to any inquiry you make. It took both spacecraft almost a year to get there.

Thursday, March 10, 2016

HI-SEAS Mission

The HI-SEAS habitat stands on the northern slope of Mauna Loa in Hawaii in March. | AFP-JIJI
We don't have a spaceship to take us to Mars yet, but we are getting ready anyway. NASA and the University of Hawaii have been running simulations of what it would be like to be cooped up in close quarters, a long way from home for a long period of time. It's not totally realistic, after all it's on Earth, not on Mars, but they have rules that they follow to more accurately simulate a real mission. There's a 20 minute delay in communications with their base. They have to wear 'space suits' when they go outside. They do get food supplies periodically, but they are delivered by robot, not by a person. And they are at 8,000 feet elevation on the side of a volcano. Not much air at that altitude, though certainly a lot more than there is on Mars, but just look at the terrain. Looks a whole lot like Mars to me.
     The whole point is to see if a small group can get along and continue to function when they are isolated for long periods of time like this. Small groups have been making long voyages on ships sailing on the oceans for a long time, but on those voyages you touch port at least occasionally. Going to Mars you are going to be cut off for years.
    Bayou Renaissance Man clued me in.

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

MARS

I recently signed up for a subscription to an Iraq Jobs newsletter. The kids are out of high school, I've been out of work for three years, the whole point of working is to make money, and it seems that the jobs in Iraq are paying the most money. So let's take a look and see what we find.

Most jobs require prior military or government experience, not much call for computer systems programmers. Occasionally (every day) something a little odd will pop up. Today was a job as a reporter in Barstow California. Barstow is out in the middle of desert, half way between LA and Las Vegas. It's claim to fame, and why they are looking for a reporter, is that it is near an Army base. Actually it is near four military bases:


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Fort Irwin is the closest and and the largest. Looking a little closer we find a place called Mars within the confines of Fort Irwin. Mars? What is this? A field of red rocks? Why is it called Mars? Is there anything there? Let's zoom in and find out. What we find is a gigantic satellite dish pointing right at us:

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According to Google's scale, the thing is 235 feet across. It's as big as a football field. Seems it is part of the Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex. Another placemark for my map of Big Science.

Monday, September 19, 2022

Mars or Bust


Red Dead No Redemption
exurb1a

He does a good job of laying out all the problems you are going to encounter trying to live on Mars. Mars does not look like a good candidate for colonization, but just going through the motions of setting up any kind of base there would be a good learning experience, because as we all should know, there is a good deal of difference between theory and practice. Assuming we can develop a spaceship capable of traversing interstellar differences, setting up a base on a planet in another star system is going to encounter all of the same problems we would have in setting up a base on Mars, we'd just have longer transit times.

Friday, November 27, 2020

RUD


SpaceX Starship: Launch Confirmed!
What about it?

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. SpaceX might actually launch SN8 (Startship prototype Number 8) this week.

Acronym of the day: RUD - Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly, in other words a catastrophic explosion.

We pray that such event does not happen when SN8 finally launches, but if it does, the launch will still be something to celebrate. Nobody else has gotten so far in the space exploration game. And we won't even mention how little it cost to get here, relatively speaking. It only took a few months to build one prototype, it will certainly not take any longer to build another one and I think we can be confident that regardless of what happens with this flight, there will be another one.

The video opens with some excellent aerial footage of SpaceX's facility in Boca Chica. There is water nearby which makes me think stuff could be shipped in by boat. Brownsville is a deep water port and there is a ship channel that leads from the coast right into the city. The channel is about two miles from the launch site. I don't imagine they will need to bring big ships right up to their site. Barges could bring everything they need and barges don't need deep water like ocean going ships do.

Around the 5:30 minute mark he's talking about the fins and I realize that this is very big test. SpaceX has launched dozens of rockets and they seem to have the hover-slam-landing down to a science. It's pretty obvious that they know what they are doing. But. This whole business of using flaps to control the attitude of the ship is something no one has tried before, and certainly not with such a large test vehicle.  I imagine that the designers ran a bunch of simulations on their computer systems that convinced them that this would work, and when they were convinced they told Elon, and Elon looked at them and saw that they were convinced, and that combined with his knowledge of the character and abilities of these people persuaded him to okay the project. If this flight succeeds, computer simulations will deserve a big gold star.

I'm watching this video and our host Felix Schlang is going over "the 4 essential elements that make the SpaceX Starship program possible". The 2nd point is whether rocket fuel can be produced at the destination. I'm watching this video and (around the 6:50 mark) he's comparing rocket fuels and he tells us Kerosene can't be produced on Mars because it has no oil. Well, there are no proven oil reserves on Mars which isn't surprising since no one has been there, much less looking for oil. We start going to Mars on a regular basis and you can bet oil companies are going to there, looking for oil. Yeah, yeah, I know, no life, no dinosaurs so there should be no oil. But! Maybe you don't need dinosaurs to make oil. Aren't the scientists telling us that once upon a time Mars had an atmosphere and water? Okay, it was a zillion years ago, but life could have evolved, dinosaurs could have lived and died and piled up to enormous depths that were then covered over by shifting sands. Or maybe oil is just a natural result of large deposits of carbon, maybe you don't need dinosaurs or any form of life.

Actually it doesn't matter. If there is carbon in Earth's crust, it stands to reason that there is carbon in Mar's crust, and if there's carbon any half-decent chemist, equipped with a multi-million dollar hydrocarbon synthesizer should be able to pump out kerosene by the barrel. Okay, that's all foolish, wishful thinking, but it's the kind of thing that keeps me amused. Methane is a much more realistic choice.


I'm watching this video and I'm thinking that these guys, whoever they are, have put a lot of work into making that video. It's nice that Felix thanks them (around the 13 minute mark).


Friday, March 14, 2025

This Is How We Get To Mars


This Is How We Get To Mars
The Space Race

The Aldrin Mars Cycler is new to me. It might work out, but right now it strikes me as extremely sketchy. And the business of using solar panels to generate power on Mars also sounds marginal. A nuclear power plant would be better. Of course, a nuclear power plant would be a big chuck of mass. Question is whether a nuclear power plant would weigh less than six acres of solar panels.

Thursday, September 25, 2014

Mission to Mars, Part 2

ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission in a Nutshell - The Curious Engineer

Pretty succinct description of India's mission to Mars, at least until he gets to the four minute mark, then he kind of wanders off into the weeds, but it's understandable given the amount gibberish that infest our communication channels. Part 1 here. Part 0 here. More Mars.

Monday, February 22, 2021

Mars


Perseverance delivers new Mars surface pics, including rocks in wheel!
VideoFromSpace

It's not really a video, they are just panning and zooming across a couple of still images, but it's quick and easy enough to embed. And hey look! Little bitty Martian rocks in the wheel! What? Is that the best headline they could come up with? Whatever.

Here's an image that escaped the censors:

Alf on Mars

Proof positive there are alien life forms loose in our Solar System.

Sunday, January 16, 2022

Mission to Mars

A Princess from Mars

Elon Musk held a conference call to decide on a name for his planned mission to Mars. The result was unexpected, unless perhaps, you are a fan of Edgar Rice Burroughs stories about John CarterStu has the story.


Thursday, November 9, 2023

Australia versus the Moon

Purnululu National Park

This morning's jigsaw puzzle. While technically Purnululu National Park is in Western Australia, it is closer to the northern edge. It is about 400 miles SSW of Darwin. (Google Map)

Coincidentally, I heard someone (Neil deGrasse Tyson maybe) comparing the diameter of the Moon to the size of Australia. Looking for a picture to illustrate this, I came across this 3D poster which gives a better picture of the situation than a simple 2D map.

Australia versus the Moon

Moon Versus Moon

Our Moon is the fifth largest satellite in the Solar System. Three of the larger moons (Ganymede, Callisto and Io) are in orbit around Jupiter, one orbits Saturn (Titan). Our Moon is larger than the fourth Galilean moon (Europa).

Moons of Mars

Mars has two known moons, Phobos and Deimos ("fear" and "dread", after attendants of Ares, the Greek god of war, equivalent to the Roman Mars). 

Fear and Dread? Excellent! I'm going to look for an opportunity to deploy that factoid. 


Monday, August 6, 2018

Oil on the Moon

Elon Musk, SpaceX and the BFR have got me really pumped about space. I'm thinking we might have people on the moon within ten years or so. Yes, I know, all the jibber-jabber seems to be directed at Mars, but while Mars is a lofty goal, there is so much we could do with the Moon and the Moon is right here, just two or three days travel time away, not months like going to Mars would take.

The thing about having a base on the moon is that we would need to have a reliable shuttle service to get people and supplies back and forth. Having people die up there because we had a haphazard shuttle service would be very bad.

Since rocket fuel is the biggest component by mass of space flight, it would be very nice if we could refuel on the moon. If order to do that we would need to find some kind moon rocks that could be turned into rocket fuel. Water would work, simply apply hydrolysis and you get hydrogen and oxygen, which can be kept conveniently stored at cryogenic temperatures, which means anywhere you are in the shade. The biggest drawback to this is that electrolysis is slow. You can make it run faster, but it takes more power, which means a bigger power plant. I see three ways of making electrical power on the moon:
  1. Photovoltaic solar cells
  2. Solar heating -> steam turbine -> generator
  3. Nuclear reactor -> steam turbine -> generator
We might see fusion power one of these days, but I'm not holding my breath.


Most garden variety rocks on Earth are made of some kind silicon oxide. I suspect the same holds true for the Moon. Heat those rocks up hot enough and they should give off some oxygen. Of course, at that kind of temperature, the silicon is going to be molten and some of it will go doubt vaporize. Not too worry, I'm sure some whiz-kid can figure out a way to get rocket-fuel-grade oxygen out of a rock. So we've got oxygen, what are we going to use for fuel? Don't know of anyone using silicon or any kind of metal for rocket fuel.

On Earth we have fossil fuels in the form of deposits of natural gas and crude oil buried deep underground. The story we tell ourselves is that crude oil comes from millions of years of dead dinosaurs. I heard another story one time that suggested these fossil fuel deposits were the result of geological processes and if life had never appeared on Earth they would still be there.

Think about this for a minute. The primary components of fossil fuels are hydrogen and carbon (hydro-carbons, eh?). The dinosaurs didn't make these atoms. They were already here. They are fairly common near the surface, because like silicon oxide they are relatively light (less dense) than the heavier metals, which have mostly sunk to the core (right?).

So the Moon might very well have hydrocarbon deposits. If it does, we could build a rocket fuel plant on the moon which would make it possible to carry a whole lot more stuff to the moon and back.

Friday, June 23, 2017

Sunday, November 24, 2013

Indian Mars Probe Takes Photo of Earth

November 21, 2013. India's Mars probe Mangalyan took a picture of Earth from a height of about 40,000 miles. Resolution of this image is about 7 miles per pixel. The slightly larger one available by clicking has a resolution of about 6 miles per pixel. The claimed resolution of the original image is 2 miles per pixel. I am not sure of the provenance of this image.

Wednesday, July 4, 2007

Space Habitat

Baring a breakthrough in physics, sending human beings anywhere in space beyond the moon is going to take a very long time. Even a trip to mars will take a year just to get there. Given this situation I think it would be a good idea if we got started with building a space habitat where we could learn how to live in space, not just survive. All the ideas I have seen about building a ship to go to Mars all look like they come from cheapskates. The bare minimum of equipment, the bare minimum of shielding, just enough that the crew, if they are lucky, will survive. It looks like a recipe for disaster. We should take a page from the Victorians and building something that could survive most anything the universe can dish out. Building a habitat at Lagrange point L4 (never mind L5, everyone else has already talked L5 to death) would give us a chance to see what it is really like to operate in space.

Lagrange Point Habitat

I am thinking we would want a sphere about one mile in diameter. Spin it at a rate of one revolution per minute and you would have one gravity of acceleration at the largest radius. I like the idea of making the surface of the sphere out of foot thick steel, but this may not be the right choice. The skin of the sphere will have several functions:
  • Keep air and water vapor inside
  • Keep dangerous radiation outside
  • Absorb and/or deflect meteors and other debris
  • Hold itself together, i.e. have some structural integrity
To do all this may require several layers of various materials and in fact may be a hundred feet thick and honeycombed with access passages. One thing to remember is that we probably are not going to want much on the outside of the skin near the equator. The skin at the equator will be traveling at about 200 miles per hour. Anything that is attached there that loses its grip is going to leave very quickly.

A large diameter cylinder would be fitted to the inside of the sphere and concentric with axis of spin. It would take up one third to one half of its' length. This would give us a large surface of even gravity on which which to house our people. A cylinder a third of a mile long and one mile in diameter would give us about one square mile of "land": 640 acres. We should be able to do something with this, perhaps farm, or even raise cows. The area between the cylinder and the skin of the sphere could be used for water tanks. In case of a breech of the hull, large valves could be opened into these tanks and quickly drain any surface water into the tanks before it all evaporated into space. Water in these tanks could also be transferred around the diameter of the sphere to compensate for any imbalance.

The large diameter offers several advantages:
  • Low gravity gradient. There would little difference in the apparent force of "gravity" as you changed elevation. For instance there would a negligible difference between your head and your feet, and the difference would still be small for an elevation change of 100 feet.
  • Slow spin rate. I would hope that an angular velocity of one revolution per minute would minimize any problems with vertigo either for permanent residents or visitors. As far as I know there is no way to tell. Research and testing will be necessary.
  • High linear velocity. The high linear speed of 200 MPH means that any motion in the vessel, like walking, will have a minimal effect on your perceived weight. Running, either with or against the rotation, will no doubt have a noticeable effect, though it should be something most people should be able to deal with.
  • Wide open spaces. Having a "ceiling" a thousand feet in the air would give people a feeling of wide open spaces like they have on the Earth's surface. It might help prevent attacks of agoraphobia in people returning to Earth, and attacks of claustrophobia in people arriving at the habitat.
  • Large volume of air. This means that we can survive small leaks until they are found and a small amount of anything unpleasant or noxious would be diluted to the point where it is harmless.
A smaller diameter cylinder would also be fitted into the sphere, also concentric with axis of spin. This cylinder would be much smaller in diameter, perhaps a couple of hundred feet. This cylinder would be used for docking of cargo and passenger vehicles. This ends of the cylinder would be doors. Since the entire cylinder would be exposed to vacuum, the surface of this cylinder would need to have many of the same attribute as the surface of the sphere. The doors at the end of the cylinder would span perhaps a quarter of the diameter of the cylinder. Vessel docking would be accomplished by:
  • contact with a long probe which would stabilise the vessel's position and relative velocity.
  • with the aid of the probe the vessel would be maneuvered into position directly outside the sphere and in-line with its' axis of rotation
  • a cage-like frame would close about the vessel and be secured
  • the cage would be drawn into the sphere
  • the cage, and the contained vessel, would be spun up to match the sphere's rotation
  • the cage would be moved sideways, relative to the axis to a docking berth
We could have two kinds of berths. One would just hold the cage, and could provide an airlock for crew and passengers. The other could be enclosed so that it could be pressurized. A vessel a mile in diameter can expect to have a fair amount of traffic coming and going. Having this central cylinder devoted to docking would allow incoming vessels to enter at one end, be docked along the walls, and exit through the other end. A continuous stream of traffic could beaccommodated this way.

In most cases docking could be carried out in vacuum, but there will be cases where bringing the vessel into a pressurized chamber would make things easier. Emergency would be one case, and external repairs would be another. It is easier to build and seal a small door rather than a large door. If vessels where constructed as long cylinders, then they could enter a pressurized chamber through a relatively small door. So pressurized docking chambers would be cylinders perhaps three times the diameter of a vessel and slightly longer.

We would probably not need to accommodate winged vessels like the space shuttle. We would be a long ways from anyplace where wings would be useful. The expense of boosting them this far out would be very hard to justify. However, if this structure is going to be a mile in diameter, just how big are the ships going to be? Right now I find it difficult to imagine anything larger than about 30 feet, but I have seen numerous engineering projects that had to be revised to accommodate the bigger, larger and more powerful.

At one point I was thinking that sand would be the perfect material to use for shielding the outer skin of the sphere. Easy to transfer, simply pour from one container to another. Good for absorbing impacts from micrometeorites and cosmic rays. And it could be used as a raw material. Apply enough heat and you get oxygen and silicon. Oxygen is always handy for air breathing mammals. Problem is any small holes in the "underside" of the containing vessel would let the sand drain out and be lost. There are ways to compensate, like putting a chamber below the sand to catch any that leaks out, and allow maintenance to plug whatever holes show up in the floor of the sand chamber.

Friday, July 15, 2016

Mars

Martin Molin in his workshop
I'm watching a video of a guy building collapsible wheel for his music box, and this scene pops up. Interesting features in your basement there, Martin.
Reminds me of the caves on Mars from Greg Bear's book Killing Titan. I'm not quite halfway through. It's pretty good.
Martin is from Wintergatan. I've posted about them before.

Friday, August 2, 2024

Martin Mars Water Bomber

MARTIN Mars (C-FLYL)

Wildfire season is in full swing. I haven't seen or smelled any smoke this year, but that could change.
This airplane won't be fighting any fires, it's a zillion years old and is being retired. Previous post about this airplane here.

Monday, April 19, 2021

Mars Helicopter


First Video of NASA’s Ingenuity Mars Helicopter in Flight, Includes Takeoff and Landing (High-Res)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory

We've been getting hints about this thing for months but they finally got it to fly. Shipped all the way from Earth, it survived the landing, got unpacked, and managed to take off, hover (and rotate if my eyes don't deceive me) and land. It's flying autonomously, the time time-lag for any signals coming from Earth is too long to be able to exert any kind of flight control. If things continue to go well, they should start doing some aerial surveys of the surrounding area. Very cool, NASA.

I don't know, but I suspect the connection between the current crawler and Earth is too thin to support video. It was probably stored on board and then piped to Earth at a reduced data rate.